Anders Andersen

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  The re-writing of digital history....JW.org style. Interesting clip.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we all know that one of the major advantages the society now has with everything being on its official website, is the ability to quickly change content when they desire.. so older articles that show them to have made mistakes, are simply re-written or edited...or even just deleted!

  simple!

  "nothing to see here...carry on".

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  @smiddy,

  That's because JW are an irrelevant fringe sect. Why should other people even bother?

  For a JW, JW are the center of the universe. In a JW mind, religious leaders and heads of state alike are discussing JW activity on a daily basis.

  In reality, almost nobody knows them. Those who do, don't know anything beyond 'no Christmas' or 'no blood'. Which also sadly means they don't know the real nature of this cult.

  How different would the world be without JW? Not at all (apart from some tens of thousands of families having different relations as most of us experience personally).
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  Every Country and Land... Except Oman

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so the other day someone asked me what use was it to make the list of countries in which there have been reports.... well... to know that, as far as i can tell, there has never been preaching done in oman.. it has never appeared in any report, and the reports go back to 1926!.

  all other countries and lands have appeared, but not oman.. so there... first useful fact about the watchtower that we can get from 90 years of data..

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  Interesting!

  You checked for Masqat or Maskat as well? (I guess so)
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  Truly I say to you, Amen I say to you, Inferences from a Gospel manner of speech

  by kepler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in another topic changes in the nwt, one of the correspondents posted that.

  concerning the comma in luke 23:43, http://www.dtl.org/alt/comments/today.htmhas some interesting comments.. .

  to summarize what was stated at this website, the translator selected a translation for luke 23:43. .

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  I just noticed that in Watchtowers own interlinear translation the Greek text contains a comma...guess where?

  Right after 'I say'....

  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ ᾿Αμήν σοιto λέγω, σήμερονtoday μετ’ ἐμοῦme ἔσῃ ἐνin τῷ παραδείσῳ.

  http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/int/E/1985/42/23#s=43&study=discover&v=43
  
  
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  Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

  are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

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  They all believe you live and die

  Depending on your definition of dying, they don't even agree on that.

  
  
  
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  HULU's - The Path

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this show is a.m.a.z.i.n.g!!!!.

  ...anyone that has been in a strict religion.

  ...anyone that has been in a high control cult or movement/organization.

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  Have downloaded but not yet watched season 1.

  How would very in dub spouses react?
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  My Dad wants to study with me

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

  the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

  he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

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  The other day my Dad told me that I was old enough to make a decision

  You can ask him if he really thinks you're mature enough to make a decision yourself regarding baptism.

  If he says yes, ask him if that means he would support you if no matter what mature decision you make?

  Would he really accept it to be your decision?

  Or does he think you're only mature enough to nod and do as he says? Does Jehovah force anyone? (Actually yes, but JWs maintain he doesn't;-)

  Respectfully discuss this with him. Either he agrees you're mature enough to make your own decision no matter what, or not. In either case you shouldn't get baptised.

  
  
  
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  REVEALED: The number of Bethelites over the years

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in response to this thread.

  i've put forward the argument that i believe that the 'organization' is financially effectively bleeding itself dry - it is actually financially imploding.. i believe that over the last 45 or so years, in particular, it has evolved from a relatively 'lean machine' into what is now a huge unwieldy organization.

  as an organization grows i would expect increased efficiency through by both economies of scale, and advances in technology.. how has the watchtower organization fared?....

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  Interesting overview!
  
  I'm wondering. who are counted in these numbers?

  • Full timers living at Bethel
  • Full timers and part timers living in their own homes, commuting?
  • Full timers and part timers working from home (there are assignment like translation, administrative stuff and IT projects that allow for that)?
  • If 4 people each serve a short term (e.g. 3 months) on the same function, are they counted as 4 Bethelites?

  In 1959 and many decades after that all Bethelites were full timers living at Bethell.
  Now the numbers may include a lot of workers who are hardly ever near a Bethell, and who likely provide for their own living expenses.
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  Regional Kickbacks to WTS for Conventions

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i guess tax payers get to subsidize the conventions, who knew!.

  https://user-cb2rbzy.cld.bz/jehovah-s-witnesses-2017-regional-convention/4.

  no wonder they really push people to book through the congregation rather than privately, directly - it's all about the rebates!.

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  Great find.

  They also get complimentary rooms or upgrades to executive suites for each 40 or 50 rooms they manage to sell to the dubs.
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  Shunning

  by A Believer in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you guys do know that if you just leave and never go back you wont be disfellowshiped right?

  i know people who have done exactly this.

  you have to commit a sin and you or someone else has to tell a elder.

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  Morpheus,

  So true!

  He surely knows we are a 'lost cause' to JWdom. From a JW viewpoint, Believer has absolutely no valid reason to read here, let alone post anything here. The only reason he does so is his unconscious need to break free.

  • The 5 stages of grief and loss are:
  • 1. Denial and isolation;
  • 2. Anger;
  • 3. Bargaining;
  • 4. Depression;
  • 5. Acceptance.
  • People who are grieving do not necessarily go through the stages in the same order or experience all of them.
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  Name one Watchtower date that they got correct

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was the year 2011. remember that one?

  surprise, surprise -- it wasn't one of their predictions.

  it was from one of their competitors, harold camping.. "religious leaders sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers.

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  @Coldsteel,

  What Londo said. And even as a coincidence 1914 sucks.

  According to JW Jesus became king (again) in October, and then kicked Satan to earth.

  So why did the first and most notable sign of those events - WWI - begin already months before that?

  But that is a question to must be answered when looking at current JW fairy tales.

  Looking at their original predictions, they explicitly said that if a Great War started in Europe (that everyone and their mother was preparing for in an arms races starting decades before 1914), that would not matter as it is not a part of the Biblical events.

  Instead, they expected 1914 to be the end of Armageddon.

  So their original predictions failed big time, and the nonsense they made up many years after 1914 doesn't fit history.